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Viperman

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 I spoke with a friend who's manufactures molded rubber products and talked about the Red Ace.I wasn't surprised to hear him brag about quality of rubber,the new process developments and options for gas inserted.like F1 cars use to keep the tire pressure consistent regardless of air temp.

 Bottom line is he thinks our USHA guys are guilty of good business???

How better to make money than to create a ball that lasts 1/2 the time and twice the price!

Hopefully the future is a ball that can play a few games and a few sponsors with balls.lol

 

 


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We've all read the Handball magazine stories on the manufacturing of handballs down thru the years. The claim is that once in a while you can get a bad batch of rubber and that it's hard to be perfectly consistent because rubber is an organic material.

No doubt that with the application of high tech science the rubber barons are able to process rubber with more consistency. But at what cost? The difference between the relatively low tech process of making handballs and the fancy gas insert technology for Formula 1 car tires is a quantum leap in cost factors. I'm pretty certain that by using such sophisticated manufacturing processes the ball company could make a better, longer lasting and more consistent ball. But would those balls cost more? You bet. Alot more, and therein lies the problem.

If handballs went to $25 a can I'd give up the game and start racing formula 1 cars instead.
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My problem with the balls is that I think 75% of them are less than ideal.  I would rather have a good consistent ball that only last one match rather than a crappy ball that last longer.  I am willing to twice as much for a quality product.  I have a ton of balls sitting in a box than have only been used for one game or none and still look pristine.  They just don't play well (even though they pass the USHA bounce test).

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My problem with the balls is that I think 75% of them are less than ideal.  I would rather have a good consistent ball that only last one match rather than a crappy ball that last longer.  I am willing to twice as much for a quality product.  I have a ton of balls sitting in a box than have only been used for one game or none and still look pristine.  They just don't play well (even though they pass the USHA bounce test).


Agreed. I've used an analogy for years: How long do you use one golf ball? Hackers will hit anything round. Pros switch every 3 holes. Most of us fall somewhere in the middle. I play decent golf (7) and I use a new ball each round. I have no problem with handballs breaking on average every few games. I don't want to go through 3 balls in a match, but I certainly don't want a ball to last 6 months.

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I would rather have a good consistent ball that lasts for 3 days and six matches, but I would not be willing to pay twice the price of the current product. If a can of balls went to $18 it could be the kiss of death for four-wall.

A new universal ball for all codes is the holy grail here. Why can't someone make that happen?

Maybe Viperman's friend who touts his molded rubber products would like to explore this situation. Could some rubber mogul here in North America beat out the Taiwanese with higher quality material, high tech manufacturing processes, etc? Could it be done in a cost-effective way?

Perhaps the WPHL will don its explorer's hat, too. If someone develops a better ball, will the handball world beat a staggered beer-smelling path to their door?

Or is this idea just "Bad Business"?
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 MichaelFJF

 

I usually use more than one new ball per round.  After about the third new ball disappears, I start losing older ones.

 

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