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Wow! That a great action shot, you really got the power stroke just right!
Breaking that serve down??
Well power, timing, genetics, weight transfer, proper shoulder rotation, striking the ball at the correct point of impact and height. So to make an attempt at breaking it down would very difficult.
There's a frame there where I'm hitting the ball and it's the same exact stroke and same exact motion my dad has(1987 Handball Magazine Nationals Edition, front cover), yet we have different swing habits.
Who's the guy to my left sitting down looking the wrong way? Does he know we're playing for CL CUP??
And i get berated for drawing attention to the brave young americans being butchered daily in Iraq on a false pretence YET these boys get to make thinly veiled homophobic remarks...
Where is the justice?
I'm sick telling you Americans: one of your few redeeming features is that you're close to Canada.
Tiocfaidh ar la.
Great slow-mo of Naty Jr's serve.
Power first starts with proper spine mechanics, then transferring power from the feet up the legs through the spine to the arms.
The only "imperfection" in Naty's mechanics I can see is that he could improve his lumbar (low back) spine positioning to enable better thoracic rotation (mid and upper back) and shoulder rotation when hitting the ball.
But it is pretty damn good regardless.
If the lumbar spine is flexed when hitting the ball it will affect the rest of the "chain of movement" above it.
Try slouching in a chair and then externally rotate your arm like you are going to throw a ball. Now sit with good posture and try the same thing. You will notice how much farther back you can externally rotate the humerus (upper arm).
Proper spine mechanics is the first key to power.
Just some info for those interested.
Knowing Naty, like I do, he will go in the court and try your suggestion! In fact, he will probably call you for a better explanation! Upon my visit to the Bike's and Naty x2, I learned that Jr. is constantly "tweaking" his serve to keep up with the JONES'. He has some new moves for the Nationals (not on film), and his "serve coach" (Al Moore and Naty Sr.) have Naty focusing on: Where to position the feet in the box, where to drop the ball, how low to let the ball drop before initial impact, where to hit the ball (on the front wall), what spin to put on it, when to open the hips, and so much more!
I guarantee NATY will use Rob's suggestions.
I don't remember who my doubles partner was at the time, but I think it was John Bike?? Naty was playing with Al Moore and went on a serving rampage. He hit 10, or so, nonreturnable aces in one set. The strange thing was, he was doing it by hitting cracks at the short-line (left), short-line (right), deep (left), and deep (right). Then, he would sneak in a slider. He had 6 different "effective" serves, and all of them were ACES.
If you want to film every one of these serves, just take a trip to Victorville on any M, W, F (at 4pm). This is where the CLINIC is put on!
whenever i hit a lot of drive serves in a match, my dominant arm hurts around where my pectoral muscle meets my upper arm. i know it's from bad form but can't figure out what i'm doing wrong.
anybody got any suggestions?
your request would've been dealt with by SD's titbits which I'm starting up again soon...
for now however here is your answer:
You are stretching for the ball (perhaps not on serve but during rallies).
Get fit and make contact with the ball closer to your body.
That is all.
Sorry so late on the response. I had my left eye re-done with the Lasik procedure yesterday. Hope this one works?
What a great eye you have for this simple yet important area on my serve. I will definitely be contacting you on my lumbar positioning. I understand what your saying now I need to know how to implement it.
Aside from the angle....it's a perfect match! With Jeff Kastner and technology....Handball has hope.
Please understand that my response regarding Naty's serve was from purely a physiological standpoint. You can have poor mechanics and still have a good serve.
Naty's spine mechanics are very good and much better than most players. But most of the top players all use pretty good spine mechanics or their shoulders would fall apart pretty quickly.
No one can have and maintain perfect spine mechanics all the time. But think of it this way, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. If the spine is the weakest link, then you are really in trouble.
Improving Naty's lumbar spine positioning would probably not improve his serve. But it could help decrease stress on the shoulder while serving by increasing his external rotation.
By all means, Naty is the king of serves. I am pretty sure I can not show him anything to make his serve better. But I can help with mechanics to decrease undue stress on joints.
Jerry, I will help you out anytime we can get together. But I am sorry, I am pretty sure I cannot play in LA this year and I will only be there Sat and Sun for the board meeting.
Why are they dropping the ball with the same hand that they'll use to strike the ball? I always felt that it was advantageous, especially when you have nine foot to use in your approach (yes, in 1-wall it is 9'). I know that 3 & -wall only have a 5' approach but it still seems that you'd be better off dropping the ball with the hand that isn't going to strike the ball.
I guess the bottom line is if it works why fix it.
I think dropping it with the same hand allows for much more power on your serve. Munson squared, Megan's Brother, and just about every other Chitown player who kranks it drops with the same hand. Plus it looks much cooler.
Megan's Brother, and just about every other Chitown player who kranks it drops with the same hand. QUOTE]
Megan's Brother cranks it? You could have fooled us.
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Now, on the other hand, that Tyler Stevens dude, when not hitting those silly, weak "dominator" serves to Jose Cevallos, Jr. i.e. playing doubles against the LFC Doubles Team II, can flat out CRANK it!
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