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I had a good game last night with a young fella named Pete Svennungsen. He is about to start playing at an open level. I ended up losing in the tie breaker 11-10. I was disappointed, but I have been playing handball over 30 years. So my skills aren't what they used to be. When I got home I started to reminisce about the good old days in southern California when I started to play. What a great time. Naty sr. was a young guy and there were some great players back then. Paul Haber , Stuffy Singer, just to name a few. I have so many great handball memories and stories. I think it would be great to hear some stories from some of the older guys. One memory I have,  there was a handball court called the Longhorn. This court was behind a Horse feed store in Riverside, CA.  There was some great games played there. Back then you knew you had become a open player  when you were invited to play there. Guys would come from all over just to have a chance to play on that court. I wonder if anyone knows whatever happened to that club.

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Did you ever play Ron Moormeister or Gary Stedman?  During the last Nationals held at Los Cabs,  I drove over to the YMCA in Hollywood one afternoon.  It was pretty cool to see pictures of Gary Stedman and Ron Moormeister as rookies, winning a B or C bracket, as well as a host of other of the great handball players from the 50s and 60s hanging up outside the courts.


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Yes, I played Gary and Ron several times. Gary was lanky with great handball skills. And Ron was just a bear! big guy with lots of power. Did you ever see Jim Vandenboss play ? He was also very good

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I saw Jim Vandenboss play once at a Pro Qualifier at Los Cabs in the Spring of 1989.  He was attempting a come back at that tournament after several years off and was a bit frustrated with his play.  I don't recall which Commerce rising superstar Jim played in round one.  The honey bear (Alfred Amaral), Vince Munoz, Tati, and Craig Dennert were there.  I do remember Vince beating a really solid Dan Brennan in round one of that qualifier and Craig Dennert beating NYC attorney, Tom Ciccarello (sp???).  You could see that Jim was a great player at one time by the type of shots he was attempting (and skipping in).  He was a little too rusty to handle the pressure.

 

Danny Schmitt told me Jim had ruled So. Cal. doubles play for a long stretch of time.


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Mike, enjoyed your recollections of the longhorn handball court. Just by chance, spoke with Stuffy this morning and mentioned this to him. He has an amazing memory for handball trivia but thinks the court might have been in the Pomona area instead of Riverside and right behind a western saddlery and cowboy-type shop. But here's the wild part. He can remember the Name of the guy who owned that shop: Jack Kershersky!

I guess there is at least one positive side to abstaining from alcoholic beverages during one's lifetime. More memory cells.

I really wouldn't know much about that.
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That's funny...I believe Stuffy's is correct. I also suffer from the alcohol memory syndrome

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I have a LONGHORN t-shirt hanging in my closet, I wear it once and a while. I know the nostalgia that club had for many of the So. Cal players playing in the 70's and early 80's. I know for my dad, the Longhorn court helped him sharpen his tools as a player and build friendships that would last a lifetime. 


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Naty

 

There are kids on here.  You should not be talking about your Longhorn hanging anywhere!

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Whoa?? SLOW it down Mr. Grow!


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Here is a funny handball story. Back in early 80's there was a tourney at Los Cab. My brother-in law who was a "C" player wanted to play in a tournament with me. Los Cab had a Open division but first round losers dropped to the "A's". I figured this would be great since we would lose the first round and then we could play in A's together. Our first match was against two young guns.Vince Munoz and Tati Silvera. They were just getting good enough to play open. So we would lose and go our separate ways. After the first game we won. My brother-in law says"I can't believe we beat those guys". I told him we didn't beat them they lost on purpose, because they didn't want to play open. Naty was in the open. I told my brother-in law not to worry. We get back in the court and they start doing it again. After about 5 points I went back to hit a return and fell on purpose. I yell "oh my back,its hurt.....we forfeit you win. Their mouths dropped. The ref was Tom Gilbert. He saw what they were doing and said sorry guys you win! Later I found out their coach Tony Hurte...not sure of spelling..anyway he told them to lose. It was really funny everyone got a good laugh about it.

 

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But do you have a story to tell, Mr. Canada?

 

When I lived in Vegas we had a player who used to run a club up in Wrightwood, California.  I think it was in the mountains 20 miles or so from Victorville where Naty lives.  Rumor has it Naty used to ride his bike up there, play some great handball, then ride back.  Anyone else play at the court? 

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I cringe to post these days as the Boardmeisters seem to love to censor this and that....and humor is not allowed, but anyhow the Longhorn was not in Pomona or Riverside, for sure, I played there several times...true enough it was in the rear of a hardware, feedstore something like that. The last time I played there was against Dave Morones...just one game and believe it or not....I beat him, it was only one game, and I think he knew I would be easy, and let me get out 11 or 12 pts on him..it was a mistake... The Longhorn, was closer in, Like LaHabra, certainly not in Pomona nor Riverside. What about Sals in Pasedena ? A lone building, you had to have a card to get in....those were the days. And Wallbangers....oh the humanity, and the worst sin of all...they Closed the Long Beach Athletic Club...4000 Long Beach Blvd...now a stinking office building, a blatant crime. Hope this doesn't get censored. Sweetwaterronski
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Right you are Ron, the Longhorn Club was in the City of La Habra and like Mike Robles said, if you could play, you played there.
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Mr. David, Naty..Meisters at large.  Specifically, I pasted a few pics on the board with wry tongue in cheek comments...They were jerked as someone must have been overly sensitive.  First you need to know, I don't have a hard feeling for one single soul in Handball, oh maybe on the court you can run into a difficult competitor like Joe Cox, et.al., but when the games over you still can be civil which we are. I truly enjoy adding to the board, and honestly some times more than often it needs CPR and an injection of an organ transplant.  I like how you have designed it with the flim flam stuff, features etc. I am sure the USHA Board may be lagging in participation expecially the Message Board. There is no action over there, and I hardly go there. 

 

So what I am saying is poking fun at times, using gallows humor, which I tried with the Vincent Price Photo...as it fit the comment I made about Balkebush making bad calls...So someones feeling were hurt, big deal. The censoring should be for despicable content like that lopped earred welsh creature used to make, he had entertaining moments but had alot of hatred for the U.S,  Military, the President all that political stuff. I jumped in, made my points and went head to head with him..we all should have stopped and thank goodness it has.  You can tease me, poke at me all you want, I have big shoulders,  my ego isn't a inflated hot air balloon, I am just an old man with miniscule to prove.

 

I enjoy reading much of what is here, and would enjoy more creativity. This is what makes a message board man, you need characters like Mike Robles, et.al.  Having the power to stroke a post away I guess feels good or something, I am not sure. I am on 3 heavy duty message boards that really rock at times and it helps to have some characters banter things around.

 

Indeed I have a ton of stories from my 30 years of non-stop play, and would love to toss in occasional anecdotal stories, but I don't want to have my words blocked out, my pics blocked out, like the tragedy of Randy Morones in prison....having to watch every word....it ain't right unless its personal attacks, guttural and so on.

 

Everyone has a style, mine uses pics, play on words, and wry humor...I hope you understand.

 

Sweetwaterronski....Born in Sweetwater County Wyoming.

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There was a time in the early days of the WPH when the Message Board had fine threads like this one.

Interesting how things change...





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Those great threads are now on Twitter and Facebook.  See you there...


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Not much handball on twitter... One of the greatest ever has about 40 followers!


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You're way off Moe, i only have like 20 followers
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Pete Svennungsen has to date had NO impact on the pro tour.  Why?


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This talk of the Longhorn and Wallbangers bring back memories. I started playing three wall at cypress college. There was a guy Art Ramirez who took me under his wing. He was trying to learn to hit the hop like Vandenboss, and i'd chase em. Two guys , Steve Fey and Dave Trenton dominated three wall back then. Anybody remember these guys, or got stories about them?

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I played a lot of handball in the 70’s at Cyoress College. I remember Art Ramirez, Steve Fey And Dave Trenton. Art actually was a Cerritos College player but would show up at Cypress frequently. Steve Fey was a Cypress guy and I believe Trenton played in Riverside. A lot of memories. I never was in the Fey/Trenton league, but won a fewB And C tournaments.
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